
by
Jim Langley - certain
photos courtesy of the great people at Park
Tool
I
get more questions about bicycle noises than just about anything else.
Understandably, noises drive cyclists nuts, like my teammate in the
photo who I’m (green shirt) helping find a noise before his race
in the Cal
Giant Sponsored Watsonville Criterium.
He had an annoying clunk/click noise while warming up. I found that
one of his clipless pedal cleat tension screws had loosened. I tightened
it to stop the noise.
To help you find your noises, I’ve put together the following
guide organized by bike-noise category.
Please keep in mind
that one person’s click is the next person’s creak, so I
recommend perusing the entire list to find your problem and a solution.
Ideally, this guide would be short and easy to follow, yet there are
lots of noises you might encounter and to keep this comprehensive, I
regularly update it with new noises and solutions. To make it a little
easier to find things, noise-causers and problems are underlined
(or in bold in the Your noises
and solutions section at the bottom of the page) and the
recommended solutions are in red bold.
TIP: Most browsers have a Find function. For example,
in Internet Explorer, click Edit and then Find (on this page), type
the word or phrase that defines your bicycle noise, then press Enter,
and Explorer will find it on this page. You can also search for the
bicycle component you think is making
the noise, for example, bottom bracket, pedals, wheels, etc.
Also, please let
me know if you’ve discovered a new noise or solution and I'll
add it to the page and credit you. And, as we discover and quiet the
wierd and often mysterious bike noises that stump even experts this
page has become an awesome resource and continues to be up-to-date with
the latest components. Thank you!
Most of your
noises and solutions are at the bottom of the page
and some are found under the type of noise they are, in the body of
this article. Credit is given at the end of the tip. Many thanks to
my regular readers, the readers of RoadBikeRider,
and ace mechanic Anthony Alsberg who have offered many excellent noises
and cures, and helped ensure that every ride is a quiet ride!
Before jumping into the noises and solutions, a good starting
point with all bike noises is isolating where it’s coming
from by substituting different parts. For example, if you think the
noise is coming from a wheel, install a different one (ask to borrow
a friend’s if you don’t have a spare) and see if the noise
goes away. If so, you know your noise is wheel related, which will make
it much easier to find it. You can use the same technique with any part
that can be replaced, such as your pedals, shoes, seat and post, handlebars
and stem (a tough one, but possible), and so on.
Note that if you can't
find a solution for your bike noise on my page, you might be able to
over at Dennis Struck's cycling
website so give that a try too.
use
these quick links to jump to the section that sounds right
rattles |
squeaks | clunks
| skipping | clicks
| ticks | squeals
| creaks | other
Rattles
The most common cause is a loose headset. Play in the headset
bearings allows the fork to rattle when you ride over bumps.
Solution: Adjust the headset to remove the play and
tighten the headset so it can’t loosen again.
Almost as common are loose Presta valve nuts, the little octagonal
or knurled round rings that thread onto Presta valves. Reader John
Zalman had a valve rattle caused by a threadless valve (no
valve nut) in a slightly oversize valve hole in the rim. While riding,
the valve was vibrating and striking the side of the hole making a rattling/clicking
noise.
Solution: Snug them, but
don’t overtighten or you’ll have trouble getting them off
when you need to repair a flat tire. You can also remove them. The tires
and tubes will work fine without them. And reader Dan Butler
(thanks, Dan!) suggests placing O-rings on beneath the valve nuts to
silence them and prevent water entering the rims. John fixed his threadless
valve/oversize valve hole rattle by slipping a rubber O-ring sleeve
over the bottom of the valve to prevent it from vibrating against the
rim (nice one, John!). A wrap of electrical tape to enlarge the valve
at the rim should work too.
Another common cause is loose cassette cogs, which create a drivetrain
rattle, sometimes accompanied by poor shifting.
Solution:
Feel for play by trying to move the cogs laterally with your fingers.
Use a cassette tool and a large adjustable wrench to tighten Shimano
cassettes by tightening the lockring. This also works for Campy cogs.
To tighten SunTour and older Shimano models, remove the wheel, place
a chain whip on the smallest cog, and turn it clockwise.
Other rattle solutions: Tighten loose bottle cages,
bend cages to grip bottles more firmly, make sure seat bag
tools can’t hit each other and/or strike the seatpost,
and stuff foam helmet pads into the handle of a frame-fit pump to
silence the rebound spring.
California cyclist Andy
Beard had a rattle on his 8-speed triple road bicycle. He says, "it
happened once every crank rotation but only in the 3-4 smaller rear
cogs (highest 3-4 gears) and only in the middle chainring up front.
Solution: Upon closer
inspection I discovered that my big chainring was slightly bent near
one of the pins causing the chain to rub against a pin. It rubbed only
ever so slightly, not enough to catch the chain and produce the distinctive
sound of a front shift. Straightening the chainring solved the rattle.
This one seems kind of obvious, but it actually took quite a while to
diagnose.
Squeaks
One common constant squeaker is a poorly lubricated chain.
Solution: Inspect yours. If the rollers are dry and
shiny, apply drip or spray lube. On extra dry ones it may take a while
for the substance to penetrate and silence the noise. Then keep the
chain quiet by lubing it every 2 weeks. Always wipe off the excess to
minimize sludgy build-up.
Derailleur pulleys can squeak often sounding like a bird chirping,
and you usually know it’s the pulley because the faster you pedal,
the louder and faster the pulley squeaks (although models that say sealed
on the side don’t).
Solution:
Rest your bike on its side and apply a few drops of oil between the
pulleys and sideplates to silence them. Wait a few minutes for the lube
to penetrate, then wipe off any excess. Still squeaking? You’ll
need to remove them (photo), take them apart and grease each part before
reassembling. TIP: Do one at a time since they are
often dedicated to the top or bottom position and you don’t want
to get them mixed up.
Brakes can squeak and squeal, too. This is caused by the brake
pads vibrating against the rims.
Solution: For quiet operation, pads must be in good
condition and “toed-in,”
which means that the front of the pads contacts the rim before the rear.
If the pads are several years old, replace them. If they’re striking
the rim flat, carefully adjust
them so that the front touches before the rear. Most brake pads
feature a mechanism for making this adjustment. TIP:
If your brake pads are in good shape and toed in and still squeaking,
it may be because residue has built up on the rims. Clean them with
a solvent, such as lighter fluid and then lightly sand them with medium
emery cloth to scuff up the surface of the rims and break up any rubber
deposits on the rim.
If there’s a front reflector on your bike, the brake or
gear cable housing may rub when you turn causing a squeak.
Solution: Try lightly greasing the reflector’s
edge, wrapping the offending section of housing with cloth tape or zip-tieing
the housing to the bracket loosely so you can turn without restricting
the housing.
Reader Joey Korkames from Phoenix writes: “I had new wheel quick-releases
that were the exposed-cam
style and the delrin cam-washer would squeak against the quick-release
lever surface when rolling over rougher roads (pedaling or not,
sitting or not). I tightened the thing far beyond pratical but the brittle
plastic and polished-aluminum interface would just always make squeaks
with enough vibration applied to it. Solution:
I didn’t think to try greasing the washer instead of oiling it
at the time, but just outright replaced it with a conventional two-piece
quick-release and the squeaking was gone!”
Clunks
If
you hear or feel a clunk when pedaling, it’s probably caused
by a loose bottom bracket or pedal.
Solution: Check the latter
with a pedal wrench, tightening both pedals. The right one is turned
clockwise to tighten, the left is turned counterclockwise (more
pedal information here). If you ride clipless pedals, a loose fit
between the pedal and cleat can cause clunks when you're pedaling. Look
for a cleat tensioning screw on the pedal and tighten it to remove the
looseness.
To adjust the bottom bracket, remove the crankarms and, with the appropriate
tools for your type of bottom bracket (tools for cup-and-cone type shown),
make sure it’s held fast in the frame by tightening the cups and/or
adjusting the bearings (as required for your set-up).
Another funny clunk when pedaling is caused by a pump that’s
brushing the crankarm on each pedal stroke (usually it’s the head
of the pump because it protrudes a bit). Pumps are often made of plastic
so you might not think it can cause a noise, but it can.
Solution: Simply reposition
the pump so there’s more clearance.
Reader Pascal Golay reports that, "I recently had an intermittent
clunk develop on my bike and it turned out to be the axle on my
rear wheel (Mavic Ksyrium) backing out very slightly. Solution:
A 5mm allen key in each end was enough to squeeze it up again but it
took a long time to locate. The symptom was clunking with the pedal
strokes, louder and clunkier out of the saddle, and occasionally not
there at all under the same conditions. I felt it throughout the bike
so it was hard to locate."
And Brian Clarke adds, "I had a clunk that would take place
when riding over bumps. My headest was loose but even after tightening
the headset the noise remained. Solution:
Turns out that my front wheel was not tight (although
it still stayed straight). The noise was the hub becoming slightly detached
then hitting the front fork/dropout. Tightening the wheel took care
of it."
Skipping
Skipping is what happens where your drivetrain has a problem
and under hard pedaling, you experience a sudden jerk forward at the
pedals as if the chain “skipped” up over the cog and then
settled down again. This usually is accompanied by a sort of “crack”
or “bang” sound as the chain or cog lets go, and it can
surprise you and even cause a crash if you’re not careful.
Solution:
First crouch down next to the drivetrain side of the bike and pedal
backwards looking for a stiff link because stiff links can cause this
problem and they’re relatively easy to fix. TIP:
If you have a stiff link, you’ll experience skipping in all
the gear combinations. You will be able to spot a stiff link as you
pedal backwards with your hand and watch the chain pass through the
rear derailleur pulleys. A stiff link won’t be able to curve to
follow the contours of the pulleys so you’ll see it trip as it
goes through (photo). If you spot the stiff link, move the chain so
the bad link is in the middle of the chainstay (the lower frame tube
between the crank and rear wheel) and then flex the chain sideways at
the link to free it. Don't flex it too hard or you'll bend it and you
don't want bends in your chain. If flexing it doesn't work, try using
a chain tool and pressing the chain pin right at the stiff link(s) in
a slight amount from the front side of the chain and then moving the
tool to the backside and pushing it back. Moving the pin like this can
make more clearance between the sideplates and free a stiff link.
Sometimes stiff links are caused by corrosion. If you see lots
of rust, flexing the link and pushing the pin usually won’t free
the stiff links.
Solution: You can try
applying a penetrating lube and waiting a while to see if it does the
trick, but if that doesn't work, you will probably need a new chain.
If the chain is otherwise in good condition, you can also replace the
stiff links with new links. Just be sure that the new links match your
chain (same width).
Skipping is also caused by worn-out chains and cassettes/freewheels.
If this is the case, your bike will only skip in one or a few cogs,
not all of them.
Solution: You should replace
the cassette/freewheel and/or chain (only if the chain is worn out or
damaged). Besides stopping the skipping and noise, your bike will start
shifting well again, too. TIP: Though rarer than skipping
caused by worn cassette cogs and chain issues, skipping can occur
when chainrings are worn out, too.
Solution: Replace the chainring.
Clicks/Clicking
Over time wheels can make a clicking noise.
Solution: This happens because where the spokes cross
each other, they touch. Over time, the spokes wear slightly, get very
dry and start to click as you roll down the road and weigh the spokes
making them move slightly and click, click, click. To stop the noise,
apply a drop of oil at each spoke intersection. Then go around and squeeze
pairs of spokes with your hands, which will let the oil work between
the spokes. Finish by wiping off any excess lube. TIP:
You may need to do this once a year or so to keep the clicking at bay.
Over time wheels can make a clicking noise #2.
Reader Simon Westlake, reports, “I recently had a clicking problem
on a Pro Lite Como wheelset that I could not solve. Initially, I thought
it was where the bladed spokes cross over each other. I've had this
problem before, but not for a while, as my recent wheels have been spoked
radially. So I lubricated each crossover point and was amazed that the
clicking persisted. I then gave each nipple, both where the nipple enters
the rim and where the spoke enters the nipple, a good spray with Inox.
This didn't solve the problem either. As the clicking got worse, I was
able to rule out possible causes other than the suspected rear wheel.
For instance, Initially it just occurred under load in any gear out
of the saddle. Then it started clicking when I was in the saddle. I
even considered that it could be the headset as I have had similar clicking
from there if there is slight play caused by insufficient tension in
the threadless setup—but this stops if you let go of the bars
while pedaling, which I did but it had no effect on the clicking.
Bottom bracket
creaking is a slightly different noise and I've had this before, but
I had installed this one myself and used ridiculous quantities of grease
on the threads at the time, so I thought I could safely rule it out
as a cause.
Another common one for me and I haven't heard too many other people
reporting it, is clicking caused by dry contact between the rear dropout
surfaces and the axle/quick-release surfaces. I regularly put a small
film of oil on the
dropout contact areas to keep this at bay, but I applied more and the
clicking persisted.
It
wasn't until the clicking got so bad that it was occurring even when
I WAS NOT EVEN PEDALING, that I realized it had to be the rear wheel.
So, the only parts that I had not lubricated was where the spokes join
the hub. I felt this was a remote chance to say the least, but I did
it anyway and the clicking continued. There were only two other things
that I thought I could do. One was to slide small pieces of paper between
the crossover points of the spokes. Even though I had lubricated these
points, the paper would rule it out for sure. I didn't get to try this
though because my next trick was to solve the problem.
Solution:
As
said previously, I had flooded the spoke nipples with lube. The nipples
are slightly smaller than the rim holes and I had made sure that lube
got into this gap as well...... but maybe it wasn't enough. Maybe it
needed more. So, I removed the tire, tube and rim tape and sprayed inox
directly onto the back of the nipples inside the rim cavity. BINGO,
I had a silent bike again. For an obsessive compulsive perfectionist,
this is a very important thing. Simply riding along ignoring clicks
and creaks is not an option.
If it
weren't for the fact that the wheel started to click when I wasn't pedaling,
which enabled me to know for sure that it was the rear wheel, I would
have had the whole bike in bits - Literally. You see, I'd already lubed
the spoke nipples. I'd had the same problem with Mavic MA33's years
ago and a quick spray had solved the problem. So, I could have been
confident in ruling that area out and moved on to other areas of the
bike. It didn't come to this, but it could have. I guess the message
here is that it doesn't hurt to pursue one area and redo lube/tightening
etc. rather than randomly skip from one area to another without fully
exploring the possibilities.”
Thanks to reader Simon
Westlake from Perth, Western Australia for this tip.
Wheels can make a clicking noise #3
"A friend I train with had an unusual sound coming from his rear
wheel. It would start out as a click and then change to a harmonious
rattling vibration then disappear, only to start again 10 kilometers
further down the road. He took the bike in to the local bike shop who
over several visits replaced his chain, rear cluster, bottom bracket
bearings and head set. Still the noise continued. This was driving him
nuts and those who rode with him. Eventually he gave in to personal
pride and brought his bike over where I placed it in the workstand and
went over it with a damp rag and a torch cleaning the whole lot and
inspecting for fine cracks. After about thirty minutes I discovered
some very fine hairline cracks in his rear rim each traveling between
the spoke holes. To confirm our suspicions we fitted the bike to a trainer
(I considered a defect like this to be unsafe to continue riding on
the road; the trainer would at least support the weight of the bike
should the rim fail) and had him ride under a moderate load and the
vibrations started. Solution:
I
had him stop riding whilst I applied a little WD-40 to each rim crack.
He then resumed riding on the trainer. The oil was now lubricating the
cracks and was impossible to get the bike to vibrate as before. The
rattling vibration would start when the speed of his bike along the
road matched the resonant frequency of his bike. As his rim was considered
un-repairable our solution to this was to replace the wheel, to which
my friend upgraded to a new set of Fulcrum Race 5's.
Thanks to Aussie Ian Miles for this
nice safety tips about cracking rims!
Wheels clicking
#4
And a helpful cyclist named TJ says, "I discovered that the intersection
of 2 bladed spokes (aero spokes) can be noisy as well. I tried lubing
the cross area where they touch and still had noise. I noticed that
if I changed the twist of the blade section (by turning the spoke slightly
with an adjustable wrench set to just slip over the spoke), I could
eliminate the noise. I just made a very slight rotation of the spoke
while squeezing the pair of spokes until the noise was eliminated."
Thanks TJ!
A crankarm
that's slightly loose or inadequately lubed will make a click when
you push on that pedal.
Solution: Tighten/or, if that doesn’t work, remove
the crankarm, lightly grease the axle and reinstall. TIP:
Most crankarms require special tools for removal. If yours are held
on by nuts in the sides of the crankarms (usually hidden beneath dustcaps),
you can also remove the crankarms by riding the bike, BUT
you must do this very carefully to avoid damaging the crankarms.
To do it, loosen the bolts, but don't remove them. Then ride a loop
on flat ground around your neighborhood so you stay close to home. Pedal
with regular pressure. After a few laps the arms should loosen up and
you should be able to remove them by hand. What you DON’T want
to do is damage the crankarms by pedaling on them when they're loose.
So keep checking when you’re riding to see if they are loose enough
and don’t ride too far and damage the crankarms because they’re
expensive to replace.
Chainring bolts may loosen or be inadequately lubed and click
intermittently.
Solution: Check to make sure they’re tight. Still
clicking? Try removing, greasing and reinstalling the chainring bolts.
If you hear a longer metallic click when pushing on the right pedal
only the chainrings may be flexing allowing the chain, for just
a moment to brush against the front derailleur cage making a metallic
clicking sound.
Solution: This rubbing noise is essentially rider error.
If you pedal in a hard gear (on the large front chainring) at a slow
speed, you can easily put too much force on the chainrings causing them
to flex and causing the chain to rub against the derailleur cage. Instead,
you should shift into an easier gear so that you can spin rather than
powering in too high a gear. This is safer for your knees and legs and
is a more efficient and effective way to ride your bicycle that will
prevent the chain rub/noise.*
*A reader named Anthony, adds, “I had this problem and it turned
out my bottom bracket was loose. I only got the rubbing when I was on
the large chainring. Solution:
After I adjusted the play out of the bottom bracket, the rubbing noise
went away.”
If the clicking is constant, it’s probably because you’re
riding in an extremely angled gear, such as being on the small chainring
and the smallest cog, which puts the chain at an extreme angle as it
goes from the inside on the front to the outside on the back. At this
extreme angle the chain can brush against the side of the front derailleur
cage causing a constant clicking as the metal pins and links bump against
the metal derailleur cage.
Solution: Slightly move the shift lever to move the
derailleur to clear the chain. This derailleur fine-tuning is called
“trimming the front derailleur” and is required when you’ve
shifted into extreme gears, sometimes called “crossover gears.”
Ideally, you’ll avoid these extreme gears because they can accelerate
chain and sprocket wear.
If your titanium frame clicks when you’re pedaling hard or
climbing, check your bottom bracket.
Solution: Usually, this
click is caused by either a loose or inadequately lubed bottom bracket.
Remove the crankarms and with the appropriate tools for your type of
bottom bracket, remove the bottom bracket, lube the surfaces in contact
with the frame and reinstall the BB making sure it’s tight. If
lube doesn't stop the click, try using Teflon tape instead (plumber’s
tape). Simply wrap it around the cups and reinstall them.
A loose replaceable derailleur hanger on the frame can cause clicking.
Solution:
A lot of new bicycles have pieces bolted on the rear dropout that make
it possible to replace the derailleur hanger if it gets bent (the part
that the rear derailleur is attached to). These are usually held on
with bolts. If the bolts loosen, the hanger can move and make a click
noise. To fix this, loosen the bolts, grease the bolts, threads and
hanger (where it contacts the frame) and tighten everything securely.
Loose pedals and ones with dry threads can click.
Solution: Make sure the
pedal threads (the part that threads into the crankarm) are lubricated
and that the pedals
are securely tightened. TIP: Use a long wrench
and remember that right pedals are turned to the right to tighten; lefts
are turned to the left (because they are left-hand threads).
Thanks to RoadBikeRider
reader, Alan
Medcalf for this tip.
Clicks can be caused by grit, dirt or debris in a pedal bearing.
Solution: To determine for sure if a click is coming
from a pedal, temporarily replace the pedal in question with a different
one. If that makes the click go away, you know your noise is coming
from the pedal. In most cases, you can apply lube to a pedal simply
by removing the dustcap on the end of the pedal and squirting in some
automobile-weight oil. Rest the bike on its side to let the lube travel
throughout the pedal. After that, the click should be better and possibly
go away. If not, you may need to overhaul the pedal (disassembly, cleaning,
relubing and reassembly) or replace it.
Handlebars and stems can click, too.
Solution: To quiet handlebars, loosen the stem binder
bolt, slide the bar’s clamped portion sideways, sand it lightly
with emery cloth, apply grease to the bar and bolt(s), reassemble, tighten
and wipe everything clean.
Brake levers can click.
Solution: Tighten the levers.
Pedal and wheel reflectors can cause clicks.
Solution: Tighten the reflectors, if possible, or reposition
them, or lubricated the fasteners or contact points.
Quick releases may click.
Solution: Tighten
the quick release (this will make it harder to close the lever).
You may also need to lubricate the parts of the quick release and then
tighten it, because if the small parts have become dry, that can cause
clicks, too.
Front derailleurs can click. “The clamp-on front derailleur
on my titanium Merlin Extralight was causing an irregular clicking sound
like a hot car engine cooling.”
Solution: “Turns
out that the force of pedaling deforms one side of the seat tube (and/or
pulling on the shifter cable) just enough to cause friction between
the clamp and seat tube, and a little anti-seize took care of the problem.”
Thanks to reader Ben Gustafson for
this tip!
Here's another one.
"When out of the saddle there was an annoying click/crueak from
my aluminium/carbon frame. I did all the usual checks i.e. all bolts
cleaned, re-greased and tightened, fork dropouts and wheel nuts greased
to prevent the grate of any friction (which once happened previously).
Still no success. I then cleaned and relubed the chain (even though
it was fine really but I did it all the same). I even changed to a spare
set of wheels to discount problems with the 'hoops'. Pedals removed,
cleaned etc. Nope!
Solution:
I
then checked the front mech (clip on). The bolt wasn't as tight as I'd
have thought necessary. I undid the front mech clamp, cleaned the bolt
and thread and re-greased and reattached the mech.Bingo! The noise vanished.
I suppose the twisting/pedal stress going through the main tubes from
the bottom bracket area must have been vibrating into/through the mech?"
Thanks Johnny in Leeds, UK!
Hubs can make a clicking sound as well. “The bearing preloads
on some hubs are affected by how tight the quick release is tightened.
When they’re not tight enough they click (American Classic front
hubs are notorious for this).”
Solution: You need to
tighten the QR until it becomes very difficult to open it later on;
but it does stop the noise. Also, it’s really hard to determine
if it’s the hub or the bottom bracket, so tighten one and if it’s
still a problem, tighten the other — use a torque wrench with
the BB however.
Thanks to RoadBikeRider
reader, Andy Meyer of Tucson, Arizona for this tip.
Cable housing sections can click as you turn the handlebars to steer.
Solution: Lubricate the
point where the housing ends enter the frame stops. Often, the end of
the cable housing has a metal or plastic cap (called a "ferrule").
This can move when you turn the bars and make clicking noises. The end
of the housing can also move inside the ferrule and make noise. Usually,
applying a few drops of medium-weight oil to the ferrule, the housing
and the frame stop will stop the clicking.
For Clicking that goes away when you stand.
Solution: This is probably seat related. Spray a little
lube where the rails connect to the seatpost. Also, tighten the seatpost
bolt that tightens the saddle. TIP: If it’s loose,
you may need to level your seat first because it may have moved.
And, be sure to check the seatpost binder bolt, too, the one
that passes through the frame to tighten the seatpost in the frame.
Solution: Remove the seatpost binder bolt, grease the
threads and outside surface where it contacts the frame, and reinstall
it.
Another source if you ride a dual-suspension or folding bike is the
pivot points.
Solution: Check that all pivot bolts are snug and if
the pivots do not contain bearings apply a few drops of lube (if there
are bearings they should be sealed and not require lube), work the suspension
or hinge (on folding bikes), and wipe off any excess lube.
Water bottle screws and bosses (the part in the frame) can click.
This click is less likely on steel frames because the water-bottle bosses
are welded into, and part of the frame, however, on many aluminum and
composite frames, the bosses are glued and/or mechanically fastened,
which means they might move (a full small water bottle weighs about
1.5 pounds, so the bolts and bosses are working, not just sitting there).
Also, even if the bosses are tight, and even on steel frames, loose
or dry water-bottle-cage bolts may click.
Solution: Try lubricating
the boss and bolts and tightening the bolts. Still click? Try removing
the bolts, applying Teflon tape to them and reinstalling. If the click
remains, you may need to repair the frame bosses. You can try to epoxy
loose bosses to hold them in place, but this is usually a temporary
solution at best. Most manufacturers offer the tools and parts to repair
and replace bosses, however, it’s a little tricky and it’s
best to let your bike shop do the work so you don’t accidentally
damage your frame.
Water bottles can
click.
This is something I experienced when I tried a taste-free plastic bottle
made of a harder material. I could stop the click by pressing the bottle
down against the cage. But, it would gradually move and the click would
return.
Solution: I simply went
back to standard soft-plastic bottles. They’re easier to squeeze
too.
Clicks can also be caused by cracks in the frameset.
Solution:
Listen carefully to try to determine what part of the frame the noise
is coming from and then inspect that area for cracks (it’s best
to clean the frame first so that debris can’t hide the defect).
Common failure points include tube intersections, especially at the
bottom bracket and fork crown, and also the dropouts. If you think you
see a crack but aren’t sure, try pushing sideways on the frame
with your foot, which will usually open the crack making it more visible.
If you find a crack or think you’ve found one, stop riding the
bike and visit your bike shop for an expert opinion. Some framesets
will be replaced under warranty, though the shop will charge labor to
switch the parts over in most cases.
Ticks
You hear a tick with each pedal revolution.
Solution: Is the front derailleur cable protruding and
striking the crankarm with every pedal stroke? If so, bend the cable
so it can’t touch the crankarm.
Reader Julian Earl from the UK had this tick. He explains, "I cannot
resist adding a rather easy and/or embarrassing one. A soft tick
with every pedal revolution. Solution:
The problem was too long an end on the cable to the front derailleur
so that the crank hit the cable end every revolution. It only catches
you out once!"
Thanks Julian!
With each pedal revolution you hear a tick.
Solution: Is the front derailleur adjusted wrong and
slightly too far out so that it strikes the crankarm with each pedal
revolution? Take a close look at the back of the crankarm. If the derailleur
cage has been brushing against the arm, the cage will scrape a little
line in the back of the crankarm (if this gets deep enough it can cause
the crankarm to break). Fix the noise by fine-tuning
the front derailleur high-gear limit screw to limit the derailleur
cage so it can’t touch the crankarm.
With each pedal revolution you hear a loud tick.
Solution: If you have a kickstand, check to make sure
that the crankarm isn’t striking it on each revolution.
Solution: If necessary, loosen the kickstand, adjust
it so that it misses the crankarm and tighten it. DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN
or you may (depending on how your kickstand is mounted) crush the frame
tubes.
When you apply pressure to the handlebars you keep getting an annoying
tick.
Reader Cole Griesemer suggests, "This
has happened with every threadless headset I've ever encountered, and
is a consequence of the bearing adjusting mechanism (the parts above
the frame's head tube) not being sufficiently greased (often not greased
at all). Solution: Pull
apart the headset and apply grease liberally to all surfaces. Reassemble
and bask in the absence of noise.
Thanks
Cole!
On your new bike you hear a soft tick, tick, tick, tick and the
faster you go, the faster it gets.
Solution: Look on the
side of the tires to see if there are tiny, long rubber fingers protruding.
These sometimes remain after the tire manufacturing process and if they’re
long enough, they may strike the chainguard or frame. While this won’t
cause any damage, it can drive you batty trying to figure out where
the noise is coming from. Simply cut them off with a pair of scissors.
Squeals
The most common source of squealing or squeaking is the brakes.
This is caused by the brake pads vibrating against the rims.
Solution:
For quiet operation, pads must be in good condition and “toed-in,”
which means that the front of the pads contacts the rim before the rear.
If the pads are several years old, replace them. If they’re striking
the rim flat, carefully adjust
them so that the front touches before the rear. Most brake pads
feature a mechanism for making this adjustment. TIP:
If your brake pads are in good shape and toed in and still squeaking,
it may be because residue has built up on the rims. Clean them with
a solvent, such as lighter fluid and then lightly sand them with medium
emery cloth to scuff up the surface of the rims and break up any rubber
deposits on the rim.
Creaks
The common culprit here is clipless pedals and cleats.
Solution: Make sure the cleats are tight and lubricate
the cleat mating surfaces with wax, spray lube, Armor All or some other
friction reducer. You may need to experiment to determine what works
best for your particular brand and model of clipless pedals. TIP:
Just be sure not to walk into your living room with your freshly lubed
cleats and track grease across your carpets! Also note, that if your
cleats are old, they may be worn out and that will let them move when
pedaling, which also causes noise. Compare them to a new pair so that
you can gauge wear and replace them if they're worn out. Here's
a lot more on cleats.
Another source if you ride a dual-suspension or folding bike is the
pivot points.
Solution: Check that all pivot bolts are snug and if
the pivots do not contain bearings apply a few drops of lube (if there
are bearings they should be sealed and not require lube), work the suspension
or hinge (on folding bikes), and wipe off any excess lube.
Water bottle screws and bosses (the part in the frame) can creak.
This creak is less likely on steel frames because the water-bottle bosses
are welded into, and part of the frame, however on many aluminum and
composite frames, the bosses are glued and/or mechanically fastened,
which means they might move (a full small water bottle weighs 1 pound
7 ounces, so the bolts and bosses are working, not just sitting there).
Also, even if the bosses are tight, and even on steel frames, loose
or dry water-bottle-cage bolts may creak.
Solution: Try lubricating
the boss and bolts and tightening the bolts. Still creak? Try removing
the bolts, applying Teflon tape to them and reinstalling. If the noise
remains, you may need to repair the frame bosses. You can try to epoxy
loose bosses to hold them in place, but this is usually a temporary
solution at best. Most manufacturers offer the tools and parts to repair
and replace bosses, however, it’s a little tricky and it’s
best to let your bike shop do the work so you don’t accidentally
damage your frame.
“I had a mystery creak on my carbon bike that would appear
on each hard pedal revolution.”
Solution: It turned out
that it was caused by the front fork dropouts, which were covered in
a kind of “plastic chrome” that was flaking off, making
an uneven surface. Sanding it off solved the problem.
Thanks to RoadBikeRider
reader, Joseph M. VanLeuven of Glasgow, Scotland for
this tip.
“My
bicycle is an 2007 Raleigh Competition, which is equipped with an Easton
EA70 carbon fork. The bike came with a stack of 5 5mm headset spacers
beneath the stem. I replaced them with a single 25mm spacer from Chris
King. My
creaking noise came when I would get out of the saddle on steep climbs.
I went through many potential causes and fixes with no change. Then
one evening the old light bulb went off. Surely, I thought, there must
be some amount of deflection in the fork steerer tube when I stand and
climb a steep grade. Could this deflection be causing the noise? Solution:
I removed the stem and spacers and lightly lubed the steerer, and each
contact surface as I reassembled. I also snugged the assembly down a
bit more than I had in the past, being careful not to preload the bearings
too much. And YES, the noise has gone away!”
Thanks to reader Dave Elkow from Corbin,
Kentucky for this super tip.
"Nokon cables can develop an elusive creak. The
creak occurred on each pedal stroke but only when I was out of the saddle,
and seemed to come from the bottom bracket area, and developed very
gradually over time. When it finally got to the point where I couldn't
ignore it any longer, I checked all the usual suspects, and finally
stumbled upon the cause—my fancy Nokon cables. Presumably some
combination of dirt, moisture, and oxidation between the outer segments
was the cause. Solution:
The cure was a few drops of WD40 wiped over the casings, wiggle them
about a bit, and: silent bike!
A tip of the helmet to Peter Heppleston
up in Edmonton, Alberta for this helpful tip.
"I
have another creak noise solution that hopefully will help anyone who
has been pulling their hair out for over a month like me! Around 6 weeks
ago I started developing a really loud creak on my Scott S30.
It sounded like it was coming from the bottom bracket area but I just
couldn't tell. The noise was pretty much constant and happening in the
seat, out of the seat, pedalling and freewheeling. There was just no
way of telling where it was coming from.
I commute 2 hours
a day and it was getting pretty embarrassing riding into London and
back with this really loud constant noise. Twice I stripped the bike
down and following your site, cleaned, re-greased and put back together
all the main culprits. However the problem persisted.
As the
bike is 2 years old and had done 4,000+ miles I thought it could do
with an overhaul anyway, I ended up replacing the bottom bracket, chainset,
pedals, seatpost and even bought new shoes. To my amazement the problem
was still there! Thinking now it could be a crack in the alloy frame
I took it to a frame specialist who again, stripped the bike down and
checked it over, a couple of small dents were found but no cracks. So,
it was re-built again, road tested and the creak was still there.
It was on this last
test that I found the creak no longer happened while standing up. So,
it was definitely seatpost/saddle related and, knowing the seatpost
was new, had been greased to within an inch of its life and the down
tube had also been checked - I started to focus on the Specialized Toupe
Comp Gel Road saddle.
Solution:
I had previously tried greasing the saddle rails as I had read on your
site which also didn't work. I then thought, well the rails obviously
attach into the saddle, I may as well try lube at that end as well.
The sound stopped straight away! I was speechless that a problem at
the top of the saddle could sound that bad at the bottom of the down
tube. Now, with all the new and greased parts the bike is running like
new. I'm just a few hundred pounds lighter!"
This great tip is courtesy of Stuart
Jones in the UK. Thanks Stu!
Your noises and solutions
[Editor's note: It's always great to hear from
the guys in the trenches in the bike industry. This first letter comes
from one of the great
innovators in cycling today and one of the fathers of carbon framebuilding,
Craig Calfee of Calfee
Design and Bamboosero.
His office is only a short ride from mine and I've known him since he
was making frames for Greg
LeMond. Craig's a nice guy.] He writes, “Just saw your
bicycle noises page. I'll be sending people to that because I get a
lot of people thinking it's their carbon frame. And sometimes I'll get
a frame shipped to me asking me to fix the strange creak coming from
the bike. They can't find the source, so it must be the frame, right?"
Craig's Shimano chain & Campagnolo cassette creak fixes
"I
was working neutral support at Ironman Hawaii and we were checking over
a brand new bike for a Pro rider a few hours before the cutoff time
for checking in your bike to the transition area. He said it worked
fine but had a strange creak when applying real pressure to the chain,
as in climbing. After checking everything and replacing most of the
components, we were still stumped. The last thing to replace was a brand
new, well lubed Shimano chain. But the chain seemed fine. Solution:
With
that being our last option, we replaced it anyway. The creak went away!
I've since seen that on only one other bike with a new Shimano chain.
Another one is what I call "Campy cassette creak."
A dealer and his customer came to see me with the bike, absolutely certain
it was the frame making the noise. They had even switched rear wheels
to another Campy wheel and still the noise was there. I couldn't find
anything wrong with the frame so I switched the wheel with a Shimano
wheel and the noise went away. Solution:
Certain
early 10-speed Campagnolo cassettes with the loose cogs will creak if
the cassette body is not completely slathered with heavy waterproof
grease before installing the cassette. This is actually pretty common.
The Campy cassette cog has only 4 points of contact with the cassette
body. The Shimano has 9. But when pinned together like they do now,
it seems to solve the problem."
Nice tips, Craig. Thanks!
Jody's Mavic wheels creak fix
"Hey Jim, I don't know if this one is well known,
but I have never seen it listed so here it is. On Mavic front hubs (those
found on pre-built wheelsets), there are small, aluminum axle caps (NOT
the adjuster ring that takes a pin snanner to adjust) that meet the
fork dropouts on each side of the hub when the wheel is mounted. These
caps can be pulled off the axle by hand and usually have an internal,
rubber O-ring that mates with a groove on the axle to secure them. These
caps bear down on the hub bearings. A creaking noise occurs at the
interface of these caps with the bearings when you are torquing on the
handlebars while climbing or sprinting, etc. It is caused by the
small amount of movement (dry contact) between the two surfaces. It
is EASILY mistaken for creaking handlebars, bottom brackets, noisy cracked
frames etc. Solution:
To diagnose it, if you hear a creaking sound,
try a different front wheel (one that has the standard locknut and cone
on a threaded axle arrangement) to see if that makes the sound dissappear.
To fix it, pull off the front wheel, take out the front quick release,
pull off both axle caps and grease (liberally) the inside surfaces as
well as the inside mating surface where the axle cap meets the hub bearing
(not the dropout-side surface). Reassemble and re-install the wheel
and test ride. I have firsthand knowlege of this noise coming out of
front hubs found on Mavic Ksyriums, Cosmos and Helium wheels and I can
see it happening on any other Mavic hubs that use this type of design."
These helpful and expert tips are courtesy of Jody
DuMond. Thank you Jody!
"I
developed a strange noise, neither a tick nor a click, more like
a course rubbing. It was worse over rough surfaces, and much worse
when I stood to climb and the bike rocked side-to-side. It became a
joke with my riding buddies. They made a fuss about staying clear saying
my bike might fall to pieces at any moment. Solution:
I tried everything even rebuilding the wheels, yet the noise persisted.
Finally I looked at my speedo magnet. It is a small
metal case with a round magnet inside. The case had obviously been hit
by a stone as the magnet was loose. I removed it, crimped the metal
casing down onto the magnet with pliers and refitted it to the wheel.
Silence!”
Thanks to RoadBikeRider
reader, Phil Sheard of New Zealand for this tip.
"Recently, there was an annoying clicking noise
in my Eddy Merckx’s rear wheel that would subside midway through rides.
Thought it was probably the bearings. Mike Johnson at Wheelfine
Imports said the bearings were fine, that the noise was coming from
inside of the rim: sometimes metal shavings, rust from the spoke
holes get in there & rattle around. Solution:
Per his instruction, I took off the rim
tape & shook down said small bits of debris, exiting them through
the valve stem hole. My Merckx is runnin’ silent, once again!
Thanks to Mark Boriek of Lebanon, New Jersey for this
great tip!
Using an auto
mechanic's stethoscope
to track down noises
“Noise 1. A few years ago I had a custom made
Bruce Gordon
steel frame bike that started making a click whenever I pushed pretty
hard while riding in the sitting position. The noise or click happened
on nearly every down stroke of the right pedal, near the bottom
of the stroke. This about made me go mad. I had looked at everything,
chainring bolts, crank bolts, bottom bracket, seat to seat post connection,
stem to bars, stem to steer tube connection, all to no avail. One ride
I stopped with a friend and I was determined that I would either solve
the noise, or at least be able to find a way to recreate it, so I could
study it further in my shop. While standing beside the road, we discovered
that if you "loaded" it by pushing down on the left crankarm
real hard (with the crankarm horizontal and forward) with your hand,
then backpedaled 180 degrees, the noise would usually appear. This was
good enough for me. Later, back in my shop, I retested the loading procedure
and it still worked. I got down my handy dandy auto stethoscope that
is used to find noisy bearings in your car, and inserted them in my
ears.
Solution:
After several attempts, I homed down the noise to the middle of the
seatpost. Not the top or bottom, the middle. I tightened the seat binder
bolt, and it did nothing. It was already tight, anyway. I then loosened
and removed the seatpost, and noted that it had grease
on it, but not overly wet with grease. I then made sure it was clean,
regreased and installed it back in the seat tube and Voila, problem
absolutely solved. I have had to do this every couple of years, every
time the noise reappears. Evidently the light-gauge tubing will torque
just enough that it twists against the more rigid seatpost, and when
the grease wears thin, it will make a faint click. Who’d
a thought?
Noise
2. I have a Orbea
Orca that is about two years old now. I run wheels that have DT 240
hubs, 10-speed Shimano Dura-Ace. I was getting a noise that I swore
was coming from the bottom bracket area. Solution:
To
make a long story short, using my stethoscope again, I found that it
was coming from somewhere near the rear dropouts. I
checked the bolt on the rear derailleur hanger thingy and it was tight.
I put a thin coat of Phil
Wood grease on all four faces of the rear dropouts and the noise
was gone. I did it last year and had to do it again one time this year.
Noise
3. Drivetrain noise after installing a new chain. I
have an Orbea Orca with wheels that have DT 240 hubs, 10-speed Shimano
Dura-Ace transmission. First I just changed the chain with a new Shimano
Dura-Ace 10-speed chain just like the one I had. The noise appeared.
I had a new (expensive) cassette, just like my old worn one, but was
hoping I could squeak another year out of the old one. But since I hated
the noise, I went ahead and put the new cassette on. Keep in mind, the
old one did not skip, like they will usually do if they are worn bad.
Well the noise was still there. It was a kinda normal noise, only it
was quite a bit too loud. Kinda like running a clean dry chain.
Solution:
When I touched my stethoscope to the bottom derailleur pulley
on the rear derailleur, it screamed in my ear. It wasn’t
the bearings making the noise, it was the chain slapping the pulley,
only in a manner that made a lot of noise. Nothing was out of line at
all. Scratching my head, I removed the guilty pulley and examined it,
and it looked unworn and almost pristine. I decided to install it backwards,
and let it rotate the other direction, figuring it might at least change
the noise. It made the drivetrain almost silent again!”
Thanks
to Steve Bales for these 3 tips!
“I could not find the solution to a loud and irritating clicking
that was happening whenever I turned the pedals on my bike. (Probably
because the cause of the clicking would have been obvious to most riders!)
The clicking itself was loud, distinct and would increase in speed and
intensity the harder I pedaled.
Solution:
Having gone over the rear derailleur and taken apart
the rear wheel hub I realized that after recently removing the chain
to clean it, I had put it back so that it ran over (and not under, if
that makes any sense) a small metal guard situated between the pulleys
of the rear derailleur. Of course I laughed at my stupidity (I had cut
short a training ride because the noise was irritating me so much) and
I’m
not sure that such a basic error deserves a mention on your list—I
thought however that I would share it with you in case anyone else manages
to do the same thing.”
Thanks to Edward Hollingsworth!
Beware a creaking/clicking handlebar for it might be a sign
it's about to break
“I had a creak used to come from my alloy handlebar/stem area
when pulling on the handlebars. Tightening
the stem on the handlebars made no difference to the creak. Some time
later the left handlebar snapped off whilst I was commuting home at
night in Edinburgh traffic. I was lucky—only bruises, grazes and
a cracked rib.
Solution:
I
should have checked the handlebars for any signs of cracking
at the stem interface and replaced the handlebars if I found
any cracks or other signs of metal fatigue.”
Thanks
to Julian Kettle for this excellent piece of safety
advice related to bike noises!
Even
accessories like bottle cages can cause noises
“I own a Litespeed
Siena (titanium) with Dura-Ace 20 groupset. My bike started making
a clicking/creaking sound that I thought was coming from the bottom
bracket area. It only manifested when pushing hard into the pedals especially
when standing. I read all the tips on your site and followed them all
to the letter, but to no avail; the noise still persisted. I then changed
the bottom bracket, chain, rear block, pedals and rebuilt the hub on
my rear wheel with new axle and cartridge bearings, but still with no
success!! I tried swapping all the components one by one, wheels, pedals,
chainset etc... but still the noise remained. At this point I was at
a loss and contacted several bike shops and spoke to their mechanics,
and explained my problem to them and what I'd done to try and rectify
it. They all came to the same conclusion as myself at this point, as
I'd tried every possibility systematically and the problem still remained,
the only possibility that remained was a cracked frameset, (rare on
high-end titanium, and very expensive to replace). At this point I was
glum to say the least! So I sat and had a long think about the noise,
when it started, had I replaced or added any parts to the bike, etc...
”
Solution:
“It
was then I remembered/realised I'd fitted a new composite (carbon) bottle
cage, surely that couldn't be the cause of the noise?!! After
all I'd taken out the bolts copperslip greased them and reinstalled
them tightly as recommended on your website. So I reinstalled the old
aluminium cage and hey, presto, no more noise!! I even put the composite
cage back on to be sure and the noise returned. The composite cage must
have been making contact with the frame when the frame was flexing under
load when pushing hard into the pedals, a very expensive and frustrating
lesson for me to say the least. Maybe my story will help others realise
that noises coming from their bike may just be down to a composite bottle
cage, especially if their frame is titanium.”
Thanks to Gavin Wood, Hartlepool, the
UK!
"I want to pass along a noise that has taken me a long to diagnose,
a loud click that sounded like it was coming from the bottom bracket.
I had a local bike shop try to find the click, but they basically lubricated
the bottom bracket outer rings (it's sealed, so the bearing surfaces
were OK) and the headset (also sealed). I then purchased a new bottom
bracket which didn't help. I also purchased new headset bearings which
also didn't help. I pulled the seatpost, all cables, brakes, etc...
off and reinstalled all to no avail. I then began to troubleshoot with
your website, and since I have a Merlin Magia I read with interest the
section on the clamp-on front derailleur and the loud click when the
bike would twist. I put teflon tape under the clamp, but that didn't
really help either. So, I was at my wits end when I began to removing
parts: bike wheels, pedals, and water-bottle cages. None of that helped
either! I was beginning to think I had a damaged frame. Then, I began
to wonder about my bottle bosses on the frame. The bosses on my Magia
are aluminum rivnuts not braze/weld-ons. Merlin's website recommends
that the bolts not be too tight or else the rivnut could be damaged.
Solution:
My rivnuts were indeed too tight, so I tried
to lubricate them, but they were so tight that didn't work either. I
then began to look at how the rivnut actually seats on the inside of
the tube. Rivnuts are like toggle bolts for the wall, so I needed to
figure out how to loosen it. I put one of my bottle cage bolts into
the rivnuts and lightly tapped the bolt with a plastic/rubber mallet.
The bolt/mallet then stretched the rivnut back into the tube. CAUTION
must be used not to dent the tube around the rivnut. I was then able
to rotate the rivnut with a pair of pliers to allow a small amount of
lubrication between the tube and the rivnut. This seems to have done
the trick: Loosen and lubricate the rivnut."
That's a cool tip, Ronnie Boutte from Utah. Thank you!
"I have had a few troubles with noises on my bike,
a few were mechanical and took a bit of sorting out and a few embarrassingly
simple in their solution. I recently changed my BB, certain that
the noise I heard and felt came from it. Solution:
It turned out to be a rear wheel ball bearing had begun to break down
and needed replacing. I have also had a seemingly random noise which
drove me nuts which turned out to be a zipper tag on my saddle bag
ticking against the rear mud guard. Then there was the set of
keys in my saddle bag for my bike lock and back door to the house, jingling
when stood up on the seat. Last but not least was the noise which
I finally tracked down to one certain drink bottle which was made
of a plastic which creaked inside the drink bottle cage. I hope
these help the visitors to this page—or at least give them a laugh."
Good ones,
Jimmy G. Appreciate it!
Reader
Joshua Naylor came up with a quick and simple way to silence his U-lock.
When he carried it on his bicycle in the carrier that came with the
U-lock, the lock would make a rattle over every bump. Solution:
It was the loose fit between the U part of the lock and the crossbar
that made the racket. So Joshua came up with the elegant solution of
wrapping elastic bands around the ends of the U and he now enjoys solitude
on his rides again.
Thanks Joshua!
Those pesky wheels again
“I recently installed a new pair of Zipp
404 tubular wheels on my Guru
Geneo carbon bicycle. The first time I took the bike out with the new
wheels was on a century ride. Immediately, I knew something was strange.
A loud clicking noise was clearly evident with each rotation of the
wheels, but only under load. Spinning the wheels while I was not
on the bike would not reproduce the noise. Every
time I passed someone on the ride or someone would pass me, I would
get, 'Dude, your crank is hitting your cadence sensor.' I stopped and
examined the crank sensor proximity and all was well.”
Solution:
“Once
I got home, I had the time to check things out. It turns out that the
valve stem on the tubular tires was loose and moving
under pressure and striking the rim making the noise. To fix it, I cut
a 1-inch length of black electrician's tape, folded it in half (backwards
so the adhesive would not stick) and cut a small slit centered in the
tape width. I then slid the tape over the valve stem and secured it
to the wheels and the stem to keep the stem from moving. Silence is
golden.”
Thanks to reader Michael Kravit for this tip!
Clothing and shoes cause annoying bike noises too
"I once spent weeks trying to track down an intermittent rattling
noise, which appeared to be emanating from the handlebar area of
my Kingcycle recumbent when traversing bumpy roads. Solution:
It
turned out to be my watch strap!" [Editor's note:
zipper pulls can do this too!]
Thanks
for this funny tip Dave Larrington from London!
“I’ve recently had a situation
that was driving me and my riding companions a little crazy. My bike
developed a loud click on each pedal revolution. I was told this
might be related to my cranks and/or pedals. Both were inspected by
me and found not to be a problem. Various adjustments were made to the
rear derailleur too, to no avail. The local bike shop only managed to
suggest that I was cross-gearing... which I was certain I was not, having
been warned not to do that previously. So, I thought I may simply have
to put up with this.”
Solution:
“I
then noticed that when I took off my Nike shoes that
they rattled (and they hadn’t always done this). The shoes are
equipped with several attachment points for cleats, one set of which
wasn’t being used by my Look cleats – and the bracket/plate
for the unused attachments was moving backwards and forwards through
the pedalling motion. So, some modelling clay stuffed into the bottom
of the shoe to hold the spare plate fixed the problem... there was no
other way to tighten or remove the unused plate. Hope this is of some
interest!”
Thanks to reader Peter from Perth, Western Australia
for this tip!
The
click that was bothering me was sporadic but would happen almost every
pedal revolution, maybe for 5 minutes then go away. It would continue
to come and go through my ride. If I un-clipped my right foot and pedaled
with just my left sometimes it would go away sometimes it wouldn't and
same with the left. Backpedaling was the same result. The outside temperature
did seem to make things better or worse sometimes (colder worse). Also
the longer I rode the less the noise level. Solved it yet? Solution:
The issue was that shoes had metal plates for SPD cleats. They
were underneath my normal 3 bolt cleats so I didn't see them and they
didn't make noise until a few weeks after getting the shoes. I had checked
the cleat bolts and they were tight too. I noticed when I had taken
my shoes off and walking in the garage, and with them in my hands that
I heard the noise. Upon shaking the shoes vigorously I could make the
plate move around and recreate the noise. A little clear slicone caulk
solved the issue.
Appreciate you sharing Wallace Wormley!
“My issue
was a ticking noise once per crank revolution.”
Solution:
“I’ve
now learned to tuck in the laces on my new SPD shoes
(embarrassed).”
Thanks to reader John Mallard from Bournville, UK for
this tip!
Tips
for when your bike is just too loud
“Maybe these are too obvious, but they weren't to me, so here
goes: I have used three or four different brands of rear hub for my
mountain bikes over the years, and I noticed that some of the rear
hubs clicked louder than the others when coasting. I thought the
loudness of the clicking was determined by the design of the hub. However,
after I stupidly used high pressure water to clean my bike and ruined
the bearings inside the hub and freewheel, I had to take the hub and
freewheel apart, clean them, and replace the four cartridge
bearings.
Solution:
I didn't know how much
grease to use in the freewheel, so I packed it full of grease. I was
pleasantly surprised to find that the coasting clicks got much, much
quieter. In fact, I can now coast almost silently, and the three teeth
still engage normally when I pedal. That's good for me because I like
trekking over long distances, and listening to the sounds of the birds
and the wind. Plus, after breaking in the rebuilt hub for 30 km or so,
it was still quiet, and didn't seem to have any more friction than it
did new. [Editor's note: be careful taking apart
and greasing freewheels and cassettes. Most aren't made to be taken
apart or lubricated with grease, which can sometimes cause the drive
mechanism to slip, especially in cold temperatures. A better lube to
use is a heavy oil like Phil's
Tenacious Oil. Drip it into the freewheel/cassette through the small
gaps in the body.]
Another
huge noise reduction technique that surprisingly few people in Taipei
seem to recognize is the use of smooth tires instead of knobby
tires. Most people here spend 100% of their time on roads,
so there's absolutely no reason for them to have knobby tires. All they
accomplish is increased rolling friction and a loud hum at speed.
When you're climbing a mountain road, listening to the birds singing
and the wind blow through the treetops, it's annoying even riding near
a person with knobby tires.
Solution:
Use smooth-tread street tires.
Finally, I use a Brooks
leather saddle. It's great, and I'd highly recommend one to
anyone who does any serious trekking, and spends a lot of time in the
saddle. I recently had a squeak coming from my saddle. I thought
it might be the leather rubbing against the metal, but it turned out
to be metal on metal where the two rails under the seat were clamped
to the seatpost. The black coating on the two rails had worn away in
a couple of places, causing the diameter of the rails to differ along
their length. No amount of tightening the clamps could stop the squeak.
Solution:
A little oil on the rails
did the trick.
There you go. A click, a hum, and a squeak.”
Thank you Zach from Taipei!
Assembling something the wrong way can cause noises
“My bike was running pretty quietly except for the occasional
“clunk,” which would happen when I was out of the saddle, mashing
the pedals, and pitching the bike back and forth. I never seemed
to notice it unless I was doing those three things. I wasn’t positive
where the noise was coming from, of course, so I checked the most-likely
offenders first, pedals, chainring bolts, seatpost, headset, front and
rear dropouts, quick releases, bottle cages, etc. Loosened, cleaned,
lubed and re-tightened all of them. When the problem persisted I thought
that it must be coming from my bottom bracket. I pulled my SRAM
Force crankset (BB30), cleaned the spindle, all the threading,
cleaned between all the spacers, BB cups, and inside the BB shell. Greased
and re-installed everything, checked to make sure the crankarm was properly
torqued by pulling it against the down tube. That’s when I noticed
my problem.
Solution:
There
was play in my crank! I took everything apart again, and noticed that
I had a curious lack of spacers (relative to what’s diagrammed in the
SRAM Force manual). I pulled spacers from a crankset I had lying around,
installed them on the spindle before putting the crankarm back on, and
presto, the play was gone, there was no noticeable flex in the arm,
and I haven’t noticed the clunking anymore. Must have misplaced a couple
spacers while cleaning the bike. Hopefully this will stop a few people
from going crazy!”
Thanks to reader Jake from Washingon, DC for this
tip!
"I thought I'd chime in on a click my bike was
making. I've used your noise-finding tips here with great success, but
this click just wouldn't go away. With uphill pedaling force, the
drive side crank would click a couple of times between 2 and 5 o'clock.
After regreasing all bottle cage bolts, seatpost, seatpost bolt, places
where the cables touch the frame, adding lube to the chainring bolts,
replacing the pedals and bottom bracket (pedals were bad anyway, and
the BB had some slight side-to-side wobble), messing with the derailleur
clamp, and probably some other things... I finally found a solution:
I simply sprayed some silicon lube around the spot where the right crankarm
touches the large chainring!" [Editor's note:
Ideally the chainring will not touch the crankarm, so it's possible
the chainring is not seated on the spider or perhaps it's bent.]
Thanks
for the great tip Eric Wells!
"I had an experience recently which drove me nuts
and I'd like to think this could help somebody who had a similar problem—just
one more thing to look for. It was a brand new bike and on the third
ride of any length it suddenly started making a ticking noise near
the rear wheel. It still rode okay but it was really irritating.
Eventually I discovered (and I have no idea how it happened) that the
chain had managed to get outside the rear derailleur cage! The gap appeared
to be too small for the chain to pass through, but somehow it had. Every
time a link went over the guard it made a click. Solution:
I had to carefully prise it slightly open with pliers
to slip the chain back in. (I don't know if there's a better way; I'm
no bike engineer!)
[Editor's note: Yes, to avoid bending the cage
and affecting the shifting, it's best to loosen the bolts passing through
the pulleys. That will let you spread the cage sideplates and push the
chain back where it belongs.]
Thanks a lot, Mark in the UK!
"Your
site was very helpful in helping me diagnose an annoying click/clunk
in the drivetrain of our Calfee tandem. It is equipped with DaVinci
aluminum cranks. The click/clunk was intermittent, sometimes in the
middle of the ride, sometimes just at the end. It seemed to be coming
from the drivetrain. I tried all of the recommended solutions - tighten
the bottom brackets; remove the pedals, lubricate the pedal threads,
and reinstall; check and tighten the chainring bolts; make sure the
crankarms were tightened properly; check the seatposts and stems; lubricate
the seat rails; etc., etc.
Solution:
What
I finally found was that the chainring bolts for the granny ring were
not tight enough - I had to pull the drive crank off to find this out,
since the bolts screwed in from the back. We rarely use the granny ring,
so I didn't think to check this when I checked the tightness of the
chainring bolts. The granny chainring bolts needed over a full turn
to tighten them to the proper torque. No noise since. Nothing is as
satisfying as a quiet bike!!"
Props to Reed Nester of Williamsburgk,
Virginia for this drivetrain silencer!
Seatposts
are notorious noisemakers
"When I was out of the saddle, I got this squeaking noise, driving
me crazy. I did a total overhaul on my bike, but nothing did any
difference. Since it just appeared when I was out of the saddle, I did
not think it would have anything to do with the seatpost. When I had
turned every nut and bolt on that bike, the seatpost was the only thing
I had left to put grease on. Solution:
And yes, the seatpost was the source of the sqeak
and greasing it made the noise go away."
Thanks to Bjørn Berg of Norway for
this nice tip!
"I have a Giant Anthem
X and with my Thomson seatpost had a click. I tracked it down to
the seatpost after I changed my BB to a new one and that didn't quiet
my bike. I found the following solution
to completely eliminate the dreadful noise: 1. I pulled
the post and cleaned both it and the seat tube (for the seat tube I
used the round brush from Park
Tool's Brush Set that looks like the baby-bottle brush). 2.
I cut a short piece of old inner tube and covered the part where the
seat tube has the slot to compress. 3. I rotated the
seat clamp so the open side is forward (opposite slot!). 4.
I added an O-ring on the seatpost that sits tight on the post and is
slid down on top of the clamp to eliminate the dust migrating down and
into the seat tube and making the clicking sound."
Thanks
to reader David Fontyn from Israel for this extensive
click-stopping tip!
"Thanks
for your site, Jim. I found it when searching for a solution to my creaking
carbon seatpost and although I didn't find a solution, in the days
following I found what seems to be a fix so here it is: My bike is a
2007 Look 585 Team and I have a 3T Dorico Team/LTD
seatpost. After a particularly wet century ride my seatpost developed
a creaking noise when I was riding in the saddle. My solution:
After eliminating other sources of the creak, i.e. bottom bracket, pedals,
cracked frame, etc., I narrowed down the source to the seat/seatpost
area. I swapped seatposts but the noise persisted, I swapped saddles
but still the noise persisted, I lubricated the seatpost binder bolt
but with no luck. I reinstalled the seatpost with carbon assembly paste.
Again no luck!
I discovered
when I listened closely that the noise was coming from the point where
the seatpost ended in the seat tube inside the frame. My initial thought
was that as my weight went back on the seatpost it was causing the post
to pivot very slightly at the binder bolt point where the frame is reinforced
through the carbon lug, causing a slight deformation and rub in the
thinner walls of the seat tube. My first try to fix the noise was to
go from a 350mm to a 250mm seatpost. This only reduced the noise but
at least I knew I was on the right track.
I then
started thinking about the circumstances that had caused the noise.
I figured the wet ride had maybe washed something out of the area that
had been providing lubrication. Having read the warnings on using grease
with carbon I had to rule that option out so I thought about what could
have been there. I figured over time that due to use, a small amount
of fine carbon dust had formed in the seat tube that had been providing
'lubrication.' I needed a substance to mimic this. So I went to the
hardware store and purchased a bottle of graphite powder, squirted it
into the seat tube and immediately the noise was gone! Hope this is
of use to you and the visitors to your site."
That's
a great job of finding and fixing an elusive creak. Thanks for sharing
it Craig Blowfield of St. Kilda, Australia!
Keep
your quick releases tight and lubed to stop creaks
"Jim, I was directed to your site as I had a creak
on my bike and I couldn't locate it. It sounded as if it was coming
from the bottom bracket/crankset area, happening while putting pressure
on the pedals (during the upstroke and downstroke, using clipless pedals),
no matter if I was standing, sitting or even without the saddle and
seat tube. The only moments I didn't hear it was while coasting
or while pedaling lightly just to keep the momentum. But when I was
sprinting or going uphill, it sounded as if I was riding an old matress
instead of a mountain bike. I changed the bottom bracket and the crankset
for new ones and the noise was still there. My rear wheel was rebuilt,
and the noise came back with the new wheel. I double checked my frame
for cracks and found none. I took it to a different LBS, and they found
the solution
for it. As it happened whenever I was putting torque on the drivetrain,
it could be coming from any part of it, including the surface of the
frame that makes contact with the rear wheel quick release! They just
opened the quick release and applied a drop of chain oil between the
QR and the frame, and voilá! I do that again every time that the creak
returns. (IMPORTANT: Just put extra pressure on the QR, as now it's
easier for it to slip from the frame!) Congrats on your site, as far
as an online bike noises troubleshooting guide goes, it's the best I've
found."
Thanks for sharing this excellent tip
Gustavo Gutiérrez Vargas!
What's the rattling around inside my frame?
"I installing a bottle cage to the vertical part of the frame tubing
immediately above the bottom bracket and on the next ride heard a
soft rattling sound inside my titanium frame. It turned out that
there must have been some metal filings in the bottle holes because
I could hear them when I picked up and shook the bike. When I took it
apart I found more debris inside. Solution:
I cleaned the BB all out, reassembled, and I have a quiet bike again!"
Thanks, Eric for this tip!
More
helpful ones
"When I bought my Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheelset last March, 3 months
ago, I noticed that I would get a little pinging from the spokes
on the front wheel whenever I got out of the saddle, had weight on the
bars, and rocked the bike back and forth a little. I never imagined
that the pinging would develop into a full fledged creak that would
drive me crazy whenever I tried to jump, sprint, or climb a steep hill
out of the saddle but it did. It wound up sounding like the creak one
would hear from a loose bottom bracket except that if I didn't rock
the bike I could minimize the irritating sound. Solution:
One drop of Tri-Flow where each spoke enters its nipple and at each
point where the spoke enters the hub. Ride it around a little to work
the lube in and it's good! I
also had a creaky headset. I don't care how good the seals are on
the lower bearings, they get nasty, dirty, and gross. Solution:
Diassembly, cleaning and greasing will end the creak."
Thanks Kerry of T2C Racing in Sandy,
Utah!
Bruce Gray writes, "Appreciate this article Jim
and I wanted to share three recent bike noise experiences:
Noise #1. An inconsistent chirping noise developed,
sounding like it was coming from the rear derailleur jockey wheels.
I pulled them apart, as I had only overhauled them two weeks prior,
and wondered if I had lubed them wrong, or put them back in the wrong
way, or something. Anyway, re-lubing didn't make a difference. I then
swapped wheels thinking it might be coming from the freehub or hub....
nope. I then went through spaying one component after another with WD-40.
Solution:
It wasn't until I gave the chain a thorough blast
of WD-40 that the chirpy squeak stopped. In my 12 month overhaul performed
two weeks earlier, I'd taken the chain off via a KMC missing link, and
soaked the chain in diesel. I presume the re-application of oil afterwards
wasn't intense enough.
Noise #2. A creaking developed when pedaling hard
up hills in the saddle, and went away when out of the saddle. Solution:
Problem resolved when grease applied to carbon
seatpost.
Noise #3. A creak with every pedal rotation coming
from shoes/pedals traced to cleat pedal interface. Solution:
It went away when both surfaces sprayed with
WD-40. not a good long term fix though." [Editor's note:
try a wax or oil. Just don't walk across your new carpets when you get
home!]
Thanks for the tips Bruce
Gray from Brisbane, Qld, Australia!
A reader
named Mike says, "I had a rattle that was driving me crazy for
months. I tried lots of fixes and even took it to a bike shop and
nothing made a big difference. I incorrectly assumed that there was
just one source for the rattle. Your article laid out a very systematic
way to isolate the rattle (and also made an important distinction between
rattles, creaks, clicks, etc and their causes).
I found a patch of rough pavement near my house. I went through your
list of rattle sources one by one and only changed one thing at a time
and then rode the rough pavement to see if there was a difference. It
took me two hours to patiently follow this systematic approach. It involved
taking things off and putting them back on several times in some cases,
but it worked a lot better than the haphazard approach.
Solution: It turned out
that several solutions fixed the problem, including tightening a loose
cassette, greasing and tightening the water bottle bracket bolts (just
tightening them was not enough) and greasing the dropouts for the wheels
(not 100% sure about that this was really a rattle cause). I also found
that the pump bracket that mounted between the water bottle cage and
the frame caused a rattle that I could not fix no matter how I adjusted
or greased. Therefore, I just took it out and will carry the pump some
other way.
The
rest of your article addresses the creaks and clicks that always show
up. Now I have a systematic way to fix those also." Thank you again!
Mike Salameh.
You're
welcome Mike and I appreciate you sharing your tips!
Chris Watkins from
Adelaide, South Australia wrote, "My noise happened on every right
pedal stroke: a creak noise driving my riding buddies nuts. They
could hear me 200 meters away! Only happened when sitting, not standing!!!
Bloody annoying and got worse as the bike "warmed up!!" Sounded like
it came from the bottom bracket, seatpost area so got that overhauled.
$130 later, still happening. Seatpost, cleats, pedals, no good.
Solution: Finally tried removing the bolt in the seatstay/dropout
intersection (photo) near the rear wheel axle (I ride
a Fuji Team carbon road bike). I took it out, greased the bolt and mating
surfaces, reassembled and tightened, and voila, no noise. I'll now do
it again but use locktite to ensure the bolt stays tight and my bike
stays creak-free!"
Thanks, Chris!!
Cycling
professor Bill Boggs wrote with these helpful noise-busters:
"My
local bicyle shop and others I've used wrap the white teflon plumber's
tape you can get at hardware stores around the bottom bracket threads
to keep the BB quiet. And I can tell you from experience riding
them on my singlespeeds that only 2 brands of singlespeed freewheels
are quiet or silent: Shimano and White Brothers (at $100, it better
be). I have had only one click or clack out of many Shimano freewheels.
Meanwhile Dicta, WCS and the others from India and wherever are worthless
in my experience. One more thing that makes noise is worn SPD cleats.
They can squeak. So replace them before they get to that point and keep
them lubricated, too."
Appreciate
it, Bill!

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